February 4, 2023 4:21 PM PST
Max said:
Nlax said:
Max said:
Nlax said:
nope, lets repeat what happened. braveboy offered to sell his clans which is against TOS. i took up on that offer which he is then personally responsible for whatever happens due to breaking TOS. it doesnt matter if im "wrong" on whatever i did because he broke the rules and you of all people should know this concept. i shouldnt be banned for outwitting braveboy because he was the one who initialized the illegal offer, heck, id rather both me and braveboy be banned i could see a case for that. but this is unfair.
speaking of "knowing," you know im the last person to care about clans and that i did this to troll him. and you can look at braveboy on that other forum mentioning he is responsible, im legit discouraging breaking TOS lol
Just like you said, it means that you have trolled braveboy, because you have baited that user into doing something that you know is against the Terms of Service and could get that user in trouble. The "- No Trolling" rule is present on the Clans page as well as the Forum.
"Trolling is when someone posts or comments online to 'bait' people".
For that reason, the ban reason will be changed from "Scam" to "Trolling", so it's more fair.
nope if you check the times of the posts he was the one who wanted to break the terms of service. i didnt bait him he was advertising it everywhere. does he not get punishment for wanting to break the terms of service? i shouldnt be punished because he has already broken the terms of service when he advertised the deal and should be responsible for whatever happens to him after. why am i being punished for scamming the scammer? i did not give him the idea to sell his clans that was all him. i trolled him by scamming his scam not by giving him the idea to scam.
You got the clan, therefore it was your responsibility to follow your end of the deal. I have no issues with players trading clans, matter of fact, I'm planning to add a feature to the clan transfers to allow players to charge c.a.sh for clans. The only issue, is when the deal goes wrong and I have to be involved. I saw the post from braveboy, stating that you have scammed him, I have verified that claim, and since you blocked braveboy there was no way for him to contact you, therefore, action had to be taken. Now, why wasn't braveboy banned? Yes, he tried to break ToS but at the same time, he followed his part of the deal and transferred you the clan. His punishment is that he lost a clan, which he's not getting back. So, does it mean your account will stay banned permanently? For some time, I've been doing the "Unban fee" campaign, to give players chance to get their accounts back. See, because I have to spend my time investigating these cases, it's only right to charge for the right to be unbanned (In case of permanent ban. The ban is almost always permanent when someone takes something from the other player, without following their part of the deal, essentially Scamming that player, believe it or not, you have scammed braveboy). For this case, the unban fee will be 35k c.a.sh, which has to be transferred to this event https://warmerise.com/event/6 (It cannot come from the banned account). Once it's transferred, the WARMERlSE account will be unbanned.
lol all those morals go away when theres a pricetag attached to it for u. the logic youre using here is literally like trying to punish a darknet scam for illegal drugs when the victim is commiting a crime in the first place by trying to purchase them. except this in this case im even more innocent because im not the one who offered anything to sell LOL. anywhere else, when theres a scam regarding inability to do something illegal, the victim isnt free from blame. it doesnt matter if you dont have a problem with clan transfers if you havent made it clear that it is fine to do. it doesnt matter if you plan to implement that because it hasnt been implemented yet. you make the rules and you have to abide by them as well when it comes to making judgements.
to prove im not selfish, i propose to unpunish all the "scammers" since the victims have also participated in violating TOS. you could also punish all parties thats fine by me.
